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Phoenix: Budgeted at $310.0M to Save $70.0M a Year. An Official Puts the Cost of Its Errors at $5.1B.
Phoenix was budgeted at $310.0M and was to save about $70.0M a year; a senior official put the cost of fixing its errors at about $5.1B by June 2025, and its replacement is estimated at more than $4.2B.
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Phoenix: the budget, and the bills since
Auditor General (via the Public Accounts committee); PSPC; The Canadian Press; Auditor General, 2026
What happened
- 2009Ottawa starts replacing its old pay system. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Jan 2016After departments raise “significant concerns”, deputy ministers are told the problems are “resolved”. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Feb 2016Phoenix goes live for 34 departments and agencies. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Apr 2016The other 67 follow. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
Departments and agencies moved onto Phoenix, 2016
Auditor General, 2018, as the Public Accounts committee quotes it
- May 2018The Auditor General calls it “an incomprehensible failure of project management and oversight”. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Mar 2024The department briefs its minister: $3.5B “invested in Phoenix” to date. PSPC briefing, 20 Mar 2024
- Jun 2025A senior official puts the cost of fixing its errors at about $5.1B. The Canadian Press, 23 Jun 2025
- Mar 2026The Auditor General: the replacement will cost more than $4.2B, with every department moved by March 31, 2031. Auditor General, Modernizing the Pay System, Mar 2026
- Aug 2026198,000 pay transactions still waiting, 69,000 of them over a year old. PSPC, Pay Centre dashboard
We found no government report of the saving. The bills have not stopped.
Who decided
- Phoenix executives at Public Services and Procurement Canada. in effect decided to implement Phoenix, the Auditor General found. They “knew about serious problems with it”. The decision was “not documented”, and “unreasonable according to the information available”. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Deputy ministers across government. were briefed on 29 January 2016, after departments had raised “significant concerns”, and were told the problems were “resolved”. Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- Public Services and Procurement Canada. chose the replacement, Dayforce, and shortened its schedule to finish by March 31, 2031 instead of 2034, the Auditor General reports. Auditor General, Modernizing the Pay System, Mar 2026
- The Treasury Board, as employer. agreed with the unions to credit employees with leave as “general compensation for financial and/or non-financial damages”. Treasury Board, Phoenix damages agreement
The Auditor General found the go-live decision unreasonable on what was known at the time, and undocumented.
What the money bought
The money bought a pay system that cost $309M to build, by the department’s figures as CBC reported them, and that still pays the public service. CBC News, PSPC data, Feb 2026
And a queue that has never cleared: 198,000 transactions waiting in August 2026, 69,000 of them more than a year old. PSPC, Pay Centre dashboard
The $70.0M a year in savings the budget promised: we found no report of it. The department reports money invested instead. PSPC briefing, 20 Mar 2024
In 2026, it still cannot pay everyone on time.
Their figure, and the full cost
Their counts, our count from their documents, and what comes next
PSPC; The Canadian Press; Treasury Board tables and 2018 estimate; Auditor General, 2026
Their figureThe department’s figure, to its minister in March 2024: $3.5B “invested in Phoenix” to date. It does not say what that covers, or whether the build is inside it.
The full costOur count, from their documents: at least $5.7B spent on Phoenix from 2009-10 to 2024-25. It is a floor. It adds the build, the unplanned costs of 2016-17 and 2017-18, Treasury Board’s yearly tables from 2018-19 less their regular pay lines, and the damages paid. It leaves out the replacement, which is on top of it: more than $4.2B to replace the system.
- In June 2025, an associate deputy minister at Public Services and Procurement Canada said taxpayers likely spent about $5.1B to process the backlog, The Canadian Press reported. We found no federal report that gives the figure. The Canadian Press, 23 Jun 2025
- Why our count is higher than both of theirs. Its spending runs from 2009-10 to March 2025, and it adds about $711.0M in damages paid to June 2025. The department’s $3.5B is its figure to 20 March 2024, with no scope stated. The official’s estimate is for processing the backlog, and ours also counts the build. We could not reconcile either of their figures with Treasury Board’s yearly tables. PSPC briefing, 20 Mar 2024
Treasury Board’s yearly Phoenix tables, as the government totals them
Treasury Board of Canada Secretariat, Departmental Results Reports, 2018-19 to 2024-25
- Our count starts from the documents. The build, as Treasury Board counted it in 2018: $309.2M. The unplanned costs of 2016-17 and 2017-18, which the report does not split by year: $360.6M. Treasury Board, cost estimate for Phoenix, June 2018 (archived)
- From 2018-19, Treasury Board publishes a table of Phoenix spending each year. Added as the government totals them, the 7 tables come to $5.3B. That is theirs. Each table includes regular pay lines, $963.2M in all, which pay would cost under any system, so our count takes them out. Treasury Board, Phoenix pay system expenditures, 2024-25
- Last, the damages: about $711.0M paid by June 2025, the Treasury Board’s own note says. The tables leave them out. The same note says a class action could add more. Treasury Board, Question Period note on Phoenix damages, 19 Jun 2025
Left out by our choice, as pay that would cost something under any system: the regular lines in the yearly tables ($963.2M) and the planned operations of 2013-14 to 2017-18 ($380.9M). Not in the sources we read: spending on the replacement (the Auditor General reports $565.9M in funding for two years, but we found no spending to date), opportunity costs and overpayments written off. The floor’s spending stops at March 2025, so 2025-26 onward is outside it, including the transformation line in the department’s Fall 2025 progress report. We found no federal report that says what the $3.5B or the $5.1B counts.
Their best case
What the department reports
- Pay accuracy, end of 2025
- 98.4%
- Replacement, every department by
- March 31, 2031
Put as they would put it, in their own words.
- Public Services and Procurement Canada, 2026. Pay accuracy averaged 98.4% at the end of 2025, the queue is well down from its January 2018 peak, and the new system is on track. PSPC briefing, 6 May 2026
- The Treasury Board, as employer. Employees received leave as general compensation for damages, under agreements with their unions. Treasury Board, Phoenix damages agreement
Our read
Phoenix: the budget, and the bills since
Auditor General (via the Public Accounts committee); PSPC; The Canadian Press; Auditor General, 2026
By the department’s own counts, pay accuracy averaged 98.4% at the end of 2025, and the queue is well down from its January 2018 peak. That is their best case, and it is real.
But Phoenix was sold as a saving of $70.0M a year. Our read: it was launched against the warnings, by a decision nobody wrote down, and an official puts the cost of its errors at about $5.1B, with more than $4.2B to come for the replacement.
Our read, too: “invested” is the department’s word for the cost of a failure. The Auditor General’s word for it, in 2018, still stands.
Sold as a saving. Paid for as a failure, then replaced.
Still open
- The cost to date. We found the official’s figure of June 2025 only in press reporting, and in no federal report. The department’s next briefing to committee, or its departmental results report, would settle it.
- Damages to employees. A Treasury Board note puts the damages paid at about $711.0M by June 2025. It gives no breakdown. The claims records would settle it.
The next read
Phoenix is one item in the full count of federal overruns, failures and improper payments.
The waste fileThe receipts
- Public Accounts committee, Report 53, quoting the Auditor General (2018)
- PSPC briefing, 20 Mar 2024
- The Canadian Press, 23 Jun 2025
- Auditor General, Modernizing the Pay System, Mar 2026
- PSPC, Pay Centre dashboard
- PSPC briefing, 6 May 2026
- Treasury Board, Phoenix damages agreement
- CBC News, PSPC data, Feb 2026
- Treasury Board, cost estimate for Phoenix, June 2018 (archived)
- Treasury Board, Phoenix pay system expenditures, 2024-25
- Treasury Board, Question Period note on Phoenix damages, 19 Jun 2025